Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vs. President George Bush
I heard Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on 60 Minutes last night. Oh he lies through his teeth, however one thing I walked away with is this. He speaks coherently, unlike our President. He lies like President Bush, but uses coherent language, but unfortunatley it is not based upon a logical argument. But there is something to be said for his education in Iran and Bush's here at Yale, for his Bachelor of Arts degree and Harvard, for his Masters of Business Administration. Maybe President Bush should have gotten an Engineering degree. And just maybe, both Yale and Harvard wished they could get back their degree's bestowed upon him.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made Iran's Tehran’s University of Science and Technology proud, where Ahmadinejad studied Civil Engineering. He earned a Master’s degree there and a Ph.D. in engineering and traffic transportation planning. Hmmm, we could have used him after Katrina.
Obviously Ahmadinejad is more educated than Bush, and it shows even though both are expert liars. With Ahmadinejad we don't know exactly which are the lies as we still hope that he isn't pursuing nuclear weapons, although we don't believe him and neither does the UN. We know he is lying about not stiring up trouble in Iraq at the expense of our troops and the Iraqi's as well. The problem is our President has lied to us for so long and over and over again on the same issues we know he is never telling the truth, so we have become cynics and don't believe him even when he might tell a truth. He has lost credibility completely with the American people. So has Ahmadinejad with the Iranian people regarding their domestic issues.
UPDATE: 11:45am PST.
Listening to the Ahmadinejad at Columbia University, it is clear he can debate and use this Forum effectively. However, he did not shed any new light or openings into a further dialogue, which in my view is a missed opportunity. I agree that he was insulted before his speech was given by the scathing introduction given by Columbia's President Bollinger. Some can rightfully argue he deserved this but it made the Institution look small. He was not respected. I hope he does take the opportunity to invite the President of Columbia to speak at the University in Iran and give him better treatment than he received.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made Iran's Tehran’s University of Science and Technology proud, where Ahmadinejad studied Civil Engineering. He earned a Master’s degree there and a Ph.D. in engineering and traffic transportation planning. Hmmm, we could have used him after Katrina.
Obviously Ahmadinejad is more educated than Bush, and it shows even though both are expert liars. With Ahmadinejad we don't know exactly which are the lies as we still hope that he isn't pursuing nuclear weapons, although we don't believe him and neither does the UN. We know he is lying about not stiring up trouble in Iraq at the expense of our troops and the Iraqi's as well. The problem is our President has lied to us for so long and over and over again on the same issues we know he is never telling the truth, so we have become cynics and don't believe him even when he might tell a truth. He has lost credibility completely with the American people. So has Ahmadinejad with the Iranian people regarding their domestic issues.
UPDATE: 11:45am PST.
Listening to the Ahmadinejad at Columbia University, it is clear he can debate and use this Forum effectively. However, he did not shed any new light or openings into a further dialogue, which in my view is a missed opportunity. I agree that he was insulted before his speech was given by the scathing introduction given by Columbia's President Bollinger. Some can rightfully argue he deserved this but it made the Institution look small. He was not respected. I hope he does take the opportunity to invite the President of Columbia to speak at the University in Iran and give him better treatment than he received.
posted by Charles Amico at 8:45 AM
3 Comments:
Charles I agree that the President of Columbia University did not behave like a Univ. President in a democratic nation. Even though we know that Ahmadinejad lies, tortures and supports terrorism I thought that the Columbia Univ. President was performing for the television cameras.
The United States behavior is very poor; being first power is not enough, you must be a moral example and that just what the United States fail to do. primo, the President of Columbia Univ has behave so poorly it hard to believe he is head of such an institution, the president of iran has embarrassed us intellectually. he is articulate and coherent and does not respond to unnecessary insult. secundo, the United States commission walk out of the UN before the Iranian president gives his speech, well they just showed that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was right by calling them "arrogant powers". let not forget that until proven otherwise Mahmoud Ahmadinedjad is president of Iran; President!!!
Hi Charles
With regard to President Ahmadinedjad (a mouthful to be sure), I would imagine him a rather pragmatic and certainly an intelligent man. Does he want nuclear weapons? Pragmatically speaking if my neighbors were in possession of nuclear armaments (Israel, Pakistan, Iraq/via USA), I'd certainly entertain the thought as a deterrent, knowing full well, however, that if I ever decided to use my nuclear weapons, that I'd face complete and absolute annihilation. This, I believe, would be a credible deterrent, the likes of which was maintained throughout the cold war. Iran's nuclear program, its early stages begun under the Shah (and with full cooperation of the US) was actually disassembled after the revolution. But is the real question, does a country really need them, if those it seeks to attack have nuclear power plants? In the final analysis the world is far too small for the use of even one nuclear bomb, as in the end, it will literally affect us all. For instance, the depleted Uranium dust from Iraq, which experts say has literally traveled around the world (particle size allows it to 'float' in the lower atmosphere and on the various air currents) has and is affecting us all.
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